We’re sharing how to survive a long haul flight, long haul flight essentials to pack, what to wear on a long-haul flight, and general long haul flight tips to make it just a little more comfortable.
We’ve had travel days lasting over 35 hours to get to some destinations and many flights that went 8-18 hours in one leg so we’ve seen the worst of the worst and learned a few things along the way.
These tips can even be used even for domestic flights that only last a few hours because planes are uncomfortable no matter how long you’re on it. (ask us how to get our hack for how to get upgraded for free)
Long-Haul Flight Tips:
- What to do before the flight
- What to wear on the flight
- How to get better service from the flight crew
- Flight etiquette
- Things to do on the plane – entertainment, stretching, eating, drinking
What to pack in your personal bag:
- Snacks and drinks (so important!)
- Extra clothes & underwear
- Things you need to make the flight more comfortable
Long Haul Flight Essentials – Episode Transcript
Hello, fellow travelers. Welcome to this weeks episode of the Travel Squad Podcast.
Today, we’re going to be sharing some tips with you on How to Survive a Long Haul Flight.
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Who else? Dreads, a long flight stuck in a tiny seat.
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From fart smells to people with BDO, to people falling asleep on your shoulder. Kim, some people have no regard for airplane etiquette,
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So you can upgrade to business class, or you can use R O G Travel Squad tips to survive in a economy because you know, we aren’t paying to splurge for the upgrades.
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So let’s start with before the flight,
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This tip is one, you guys taught me and we were on a trip to Vegas, and that is to set an alarm on your phone so that you can check in right when it becomes available. Pro-tip
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It always amazes me, you know, because even for Southwest, you know, when I fly with Jamal and Brittany and we all have our alarm set and we hit go at the exact same time to check in, and then Jamal and Brittany are 10 seats ahead of me. And I’m like, how did that happen? How are you 10 seats ahead of me? And we hit go at the same time.
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Got the magic fingers,
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I guess, I guess so, man, there’s a lot of people on that flight get in early. Yeah.
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And before you go, don’t eat any risky food the night before you don’t want to be miserable in your seat. If you’re surviving a long haul flight,
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Especially if you get the window seat Sucks for the people you got to crawl over.
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Also, if you’re traveling with a group, just try to finagle your way into getting seats next to each other. I’ve found that when you book your tickets together, instead of separate, you’re more likely to be put together. Even when you don’t pay to pick your seats, you can also kind of finesse the other passengers and try to get some seat swaps going on.
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Has that happened to you where you’ve been able to swap a seat? Yeah,
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We did it successfully. When we went on our flight from San Diego to Fort Lauderdale on our way to Cuba.
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Yeah. The way that we do it, when we’re on Southwest, since you can’t choose your flight is like, there’s always the two people who will get ahead of you. If you weren’t like altogether on them, you know, they take up two rows and then just put our stuff there, the aisle, and then the other two come on. And we get those seats. Yeah.
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But on top of that too, I mean a lot of international flights, more for the long calls that we were talking about, some airlines actually charge you in that moment when you’re purchasing your ticket for like $15 more to be able to purchase your seats. But I know some airlines such as British airways, Delta, at least in the past, when we’ve utilized them, they allow you to pick your seats in that moment at no additional charge. So it’s really, they’ll give you a full layout of the plane and just kind of decide, do you want to be by the bathrooms for convenience, but at the same time, if you’re by the bathrooms, people are going to be congregating there waiting in line. Do you want an window seat? Because you like the view, but if you’re not traveling with anybody, are you going to have to crawl over people when you need to go?
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So you just need to figure out what you’re comfortable with and where the best spot is for you to sit on the plane, if you can actually pick your seat.
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Okay. So I know that we love gate one, guys, how much do we love gate one? But there’s one thing that always gets me super sad is that when you book your trip, they don’t allow you to choose your seat. So you don’t get to choose your seat until you get to the airport and you don’t even really get to like quote unquote, choose because it’s pretty much full. And then you’re wherever they stick. You.
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That’s true. I won’t disagree with that, but this time we didn’t have that issue. Yes, they picked for us. But this time now I actually have my Delta sky miles account and I gave it to gate one when we ordered. So they chose the seats for me. But since I have an active account, I was able to log into it and switch seats to where I want. So Brittany and I got to pick our seats, actually this time don’t approach it from that. Like, if you actually go through guided tour as a hypothetical and they pick out your seats for you, find out what airline you’re going to be on, sign up for their reward program and tie your reservation to it. You may be able to, and I know Delta for sure, because we flew that last time, but you may be able to log on and actually change your seats, which Brittany and I did.
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And for both of our long haul flight, the plane configuration with a 2, 4, 2, and Jamal and I were just the
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Best of both worlds window and aisle. Yes. The two best suits.
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Yeah. And then, you know, if you’re traveling with people that, you know, it’s not a big deal to kind of crawl over them or if you have to wake them up, I mean, it still sucks if they’re sleeping, but if they’re strangers, you almost feel a little bit more bad about us. So that’s why I like the two for two, but not always, are we fortunate enough to be traveling in that type of situation?
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Yeah. I’ve definitely held my P on a plane many times because I didn’t want to wake up the person next to me.
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That’s very courteous of you.
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Yeah. But it sucks.
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So like we were saying, be mindful of where you select your seats. You know, if you liked the window or somewhere, you going to have to crawl over somebody, if you’re not traveling with people that you know or see by them.
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So what do you wear on these flights guys?
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I think we can all agree that all three of us girls probably wear a form of yoga pants,
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I want to wear something as comfortable as possible, especially if you’re going to be on a long flight. I mean, I know the longest flight I’ve been on is 16 and a half hours. That’s continuous, but
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I want to be comfortable.
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Right. So you ladies are fortunate enough to have yoga pants, workout, pants, whatever. I can’t travel that way.
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That’s so trashy.
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Yeah. That’s what I was going to say. We wear yoga pants. Dana has a lot of colorful pants, but usually I just stick to
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Black. Me too. I
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Try to keep it looking good. I would never, ever be caught dead wearing pajamas on the plane. Like flannel pair of pajamas. Just walking up into the airport. No.
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Yeah. I mean, you could be comfortable still, but keeping it classy and not saying you need to dress up to be on a plane, but definitely don’t scrub it. Like you’re on a plane, people around you, like
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For free, you need to look nice.
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So for me, since you guys have the yoga pants, I mean, if it’s a shorter flight, I’ll wear shorts, but obviously we know planes tend to get called on there. So I’ll wear not like really, really baggy pants, but I’ll wear like one of my pair of jeans that I know is a little bit more like loose fitting, not as tight that way. I have a little bit more comfort move around for it. And things like that. Just to kind of keep comfortable,
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Speaking of getting cold, make sure you bring a light jacket.
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I always bring a sweater or a cardigan on the plane because I get cold.
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Tell ya, oh, you know, I just thought of this, but do you remember Brittany? When we were in the, it was an airport. I know
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I know. Oh my gosh, the airport was so cold. You guys, it was so fucking cold. And I keep looking at Brittany like, oh, it’s so cold. It’s so cold. And then finally, Yes, that’s where it was. And finally I realized that, oh, I never checked my bag. And I have all these sweaters with me. And so I opened up my bag and I gave Brittany a sweater and I had a sweater myself.
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You were sitting there for about two, three hours before you realized that. Because we had,
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We were flying home after a cruise, so it’s not like we just chose to get to the airport earlier or anything like that. You know? Like your cruise is done, you have your flight and we didn’t rent a car because we were on a cruise. So we got there early. And I remember you were complaining about being cold the whole time. And none of us really thought like, oh, we have our luggage and it took you like three hours to finally realize like, oh I got my sweater.
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Yeah. So make sure you’re dressed appropriately for the airport because that’s important too. And finally make sure you have comfy undies, granny panties, no panties or microfiber, thongs,
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Whatever your preference.
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Some of us like to wear granny panties.
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That’s me. I’m like not going to even deny it. I wear granny panties. If I am doing a long haul flight and long haul, meaning more than like 12 hours, I would say I’m definitely going to wear granny panties because in this last trip, our travel stents were 24 hours. Each like with all of our flights, that’s gross.
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I saw a meme and it was like, does anyone else pack underwear for trips? Like they’re going to shit themselves twice a day. Yes I do.
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So I usually wear granny panties and then I’ll usually put like a pantyliner down and then I’ll change it. Like Zenith
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Midway through midway,
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Shut up, freshen up. Cause you know, I don’t want to be gross and dirty like that.
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I like to wear the microfiber thongs. Cause you don’t feel like it’s up your butt. Just chilling there. It’s nice and comfy and soft. And then I usually do bring like another one to change into, at least when I land, I like have that ready to freshen up real quick.
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It’s always nice to bring a toothbrush and toothpaste with you on there as well. Cause after a long flight, it’s a little grimy.
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And then for shoes, I mean you can wear whatever shoes you want. I never wear flip flops because my feet get really cold. But I typically wear the biggest shoes that I planned to bring on the trip. And that helps me save space in my luggage as well. Anyone else do that?
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I do that if they don’t fit and that tends to happen when you overpack.
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Well I know for you Brittany, like sometimes you’ll wear your boots and things like that because
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A lot of spin.
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Yeah. Just bring it on playing with
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You. So definitely long haul flights. You want to be comfortable choose. What’s going to make you the most comfortable without really slumming it up. Let’s put it that way.
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So we’re talking about what to wear now. What do you pack in your carry on stuff?
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This is essential. So you guys were talking about the type of underwear you wear. Kim said she brought like an extra well, that’s one of the things that I always carry in my carry on. I do carry an extra pair of my boxer briefs. And on top of that, I always carry a pair of extra socks. One. It just may be nice in general, if you’re flying for a long time to change and freshen up. But God forbid, you know, if something happens, you at least have a fresh pair, but the socks I considered to be clutch because people’s feet sometimes, you know, it can get a little bit stinky. So those extra salt. Yeah. So I mean, God forbid I don’t want it to be me on there. So if it is, I have an extra pair of socks that way, if I want my shoes off, like I could hide away.
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My other socks cover my shoes with the blanket that they gave me or something. But at least have a nice clean pair of socks put on that potentially don’t smell. And it’s just nice to have them for extra comfort.
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Yeah, absolutely. So when we say What to pack in your carry on, we’re not talking about your luggage, that you’ll store in the overhead bin that you have to store up there. We’re talking about your personal bag, your backpack, whatever it is that you’re going to be there having under the seat in front of you, or it could be a stored above, but it’s something that you want to access frequently throughout the flight.
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Good point on that one.
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So we broke it up into categories so you can make sure you hit everything you need in there.
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Potential change of clothes. Number one, like we
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Standard some entertainment options. Brittany, what do you bring?
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I always bring a book to read. I feel like when I’m on vacation, I love to read in general, but when I’m day-to-day life, it’s just too busy for me to read. So I love bringing a book and pulling it out and reading a few chapters on the plane. It’s a good way to pass the time. And sometimes it’ll make me sleepy enough so I can potentially fall asleep later.
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Yeah. Zaina always brings something on the squad trips. Every time
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Cosmopolitan magazine. I don’t even think anyone says cosmopolitan anymore, but it’s the Cosmo.
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Yeah. I love it too. She always,
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Brittany we’ll read one or two lines and we’ll run. We’ll swap. And then once we’re done, we give them back to the world.
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But pro tip, make sure you’re ripping off the label that has your name and address on there
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In case you forget it in the back seat of the plane. So no one has your personal contact information and,
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And these are essential to bring because you can’t count on having wifi on the plane and you want it to save your phone battery most of the time. And sometimes there aren’t phone chargers on the plane. I mean, most of the time there are, but,
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But you’d be surprised at how many long haul flights don’t have chargers for you, not the charger, but like the outlet for you to put
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Your wifi. Even sometimes TVs they don’t have.
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Yeah. Cause you know what, when we flew from Johannesburg, South Africa to Atlanta, when we got on the airplane, my phone was at 30% and I was like, oh, that’s okay. We’re going to have a USB outlet to plug our phone in. Nope.
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And you drain your battery. Cause what are you always doing on it? When we
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Candy crush, I love candy crush. I’m also a fruit ninja
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In addition to a danger ninja.
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Yeah. So I mean, you guys bring the books, the cosmos, I hate to say it. I’m not really too much of a reader. I wish I was. I’m just not. But if I try to read on a plane, it makes me really tired and I find it very hard to sleep on planes. So it’ll get me tired and not even able to really get like deep sleep, which is frustrating. So reading really isn’t my Mo on a plane. So I like to actually have games. So speaking of phone games, candy crush, route ninja, I’ll always go to my Google play store. If you have an iPhone, your app store to see what’s fresh and new on the games and what might be interesting to you that you can play without wifi.
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And I usually do that to kind of have a good little repertoire of things to do. But on top of that, I do also like to get those like 99 cents to Duco books.
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It’s always entertaining to kind of have it because if you do have a long haul flight that has a TV screen and yes, you can watch movies, which kills time. They have stuff to play games, but it’s really hard to just point at the screen the entire
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So I like having the actual physical seducable book and you can get those at the 99 cent store. And that definitely passes time. 10 minutes of puzzle do five puzzles. It’s like 50 minutes just already right there.
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Also they have the entertainment magazines in the back of the sea and the most riveting thing ever is when they have puzzles in that magazine. And you can compete with someone else on the exact same puzzle to see who can finish it first.
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Oh, that’s fun. Oh my God.
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But you got to get lucky and make sure no one else has already written in it. So you run that risk.
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So another essential item to put in your carry on or snacks.
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Snacks. Yes. So Snacks are important. Even if the airline offers food and drinks and snacks on the flight, you still want to bring your own. So you’re not at the mercy of when they’re handing things out or having to get up and go ask and then you can stay full.
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Yeah. I just want to reiterate how important that is. Does anyone remember our Hawaii flight?
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Even, not even very long, like yes. Some people may say like five hours is a long flight and it’s is, but it’s also not. But Hawaiian airlines was one of the few domestic airlines when you fly domestically that still actually provides a complimentary meal. So we were thinking, oh right, not too bad, terrible, terrible
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Prison sandwich food.
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Good. My, and they
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Did have good my ties, but you know what made it okay. We had our own snacks
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Save the day.
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I always bring the peanut butter monster mix. it’s like a trail mix with
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Travel staple. You can
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Get that at target.
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It’s so good. You can’t get enough of it.
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I always bring goldfish crackers too. For some reason I never eat them in real life. Just when I travel. What
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I love Cheez-Its but I usually don’t get them when I travel.
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Cause they’re the same thing, except not in the shape.
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Well, the fish has a nice, airy middle that you crunch into.
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Someone else was having this conversation on another podcast. The other thing I always do, I know you guys bring your water bottles and refill them in the airport since you can’t bring through liquid. I normally don’t because I never want to like bring an extra water bottle to carry, but I always buy a water in the airport before getting on the plane because they gave you these tiny cups or bottles and you need more.
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Did you hear that one airport actually banned all one use water bottles.
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Oh, that makes
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Sense. So I’m sure that that might happen more often. So just keep that in mind.
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They do though? I guess
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It’s classic. You could, and we’ll use it more than once. Potentially.
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Most people don’t know they’re doing it to combat plastic waste. So for Kim, like she said, she doesn’t bring it a legitimate, like reusable water.
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Do you think they’ll do glass instead? Or what are they going to do? Just not sell water,
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Refill stations, refill
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Selling bottles like this
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Or water inside cardboard boxes. Oh,
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It Jamal has actually been asking on our flights, like, can you refill my water bottle? And they have been completely refilling it. Oh, that’s nice. So instead of using just the tiny plastic cups, they’ve been refilling his entire bottle.
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Yeah. When they come by, I’ll ask them, can you refill my water bottle and they’ll fill it completely to the top on top of that. One of the things we do and I’m sure we’ll touch on this later on into this episode is we do stand up and stretch kind of in the galleys. And during the long haul flights, they will always have a few drinks out there. They’ll have soda cans for you to grab water, to fill as well. So I’ll just always go up and refill my water bottle because Kim’s no shame whatsoever. You’re right. They give you the small
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Ones and yep. And if you’re going to be on a flight for that long, I definitely want to be hydrated for sure. I hate feeling parched on
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The flight plane. All right. Let’s talk comfort. Because long haul flights can be uncomfortable.
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I have to travel with my travel pillow. I love it. It’s so good. I use it. So if I’m not sleeping, I’ll use it around my lap just as like that added like comfort level. But of course I’ll use it around my head when I’m sleeping.
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When we were in the Cuba airport, Kim, let me use her travel pillow.
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It was a blow up once you can crunch it up smaller and put it in your backpack and then blow it up and still be soft.
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Yeah. Cause this was like early morning before we boarded our flight. So it was sleeping on the benches there. And I could have sworn I picked it up, I guess I didn’t. And I’m so sorry. I know I got her another one, but apparently it wasn’t as great as that one. Cause that was a really solid pillow
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And it was a solid pillow, but someone else probably picked it up and passed on. That’s the positive there
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Somebody is getting good use out.
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What else do you bring? I always bring extra socks. We were talking about that earlier. If I’m wearing ankle socks, I’ll bring like Cru style. Maybe like softer socks that are just more comfortable put on during the plane. Cause it does get cold.
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I always bring that cardigan. I was talking about,
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Oh, I know what you bring. What do I bring your stolen airplane blanket. I
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Didn’t bring it on my last long. Did
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They give you one? Yes
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Did. Okay. Did you replace it? Did you steal it?
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No, I left it there.
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Oh wow. You can disappointed.
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I’ve stolen airplane blankets in the past. And I don’t really consider it stealing because I paid for my flight and they include them in my flight and I take them everywhere with me. They’re in like the backseat of my car. They’re perfect for road trips. I know you guys have used them in the backseat of my car.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Know we actually have photos of you guys passed out using that.
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So Hey, if you use the blanket and you leave it on the airplane, do you think that they take it and wash it and repackage it or do you think they just repackage it or do you think they throw it away? I
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Think they wash it and repackage it.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I’m sure there’s us laws and not allowing them to reuse that. I mean, those things are on the floor. Sometimes people stepping on it. I mean, airplane, bathroom’s dirty feet touching that
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Sweaty 12 hour body, all it
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In our last fight. They gave us some eye masks and earplugs, which could be a sunshiny.
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See, I usually try to bring that too.
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Yeah. If you don’t have them with you, sometimes I’ll provide them for you. And I think those are essential in clutch.
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I was going to say a lot of airlines will do that. Even if you’re flying in economy, they will give you the eye mask ear plugs. Now that your plugs are just going to be your normal little, like a little plastic ones that fit in the iron mask. Isn’t anything great. I’m not saying all airlines do it, but a lot of the more, I don’t want to say reputable, but non-budget airlines.
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They will. They will provide that. And if you want me to be completely honest, they want you to fall asleep on the
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Flight. They don’t want you to
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Be awake. Yeah. So they’re going to give you what they can, but if you’re flying and don’t know if your airline is going to have it, cause you’ve never flown them before. If those things would help you definitely take into consideration getting yourself like an iron mask or earplugs from the dollar store.
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I actually picked up my aunt and uncle and cousin from the airport today. And they said that on their five-hour flight back, there was a kicking screaming toddler the entire time. Oh my
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God. It was kicking, kicking their
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Seat and screaming. So the earplugs would have, I don’t think they did. Yeah, they were being too nice.
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I just thought of right now that is essential for comfort. What? Headphones.
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I love my beats earphones. Even if I’m not listening to anything. Cause I feel like it just drowns the world out.
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It’s like definitely entertainment thing too. I love to download podcasts that will play.
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Yeah. And some airlines charge you for their headphones. So it’s essentially to bring your own and save the environment.
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Yeah. So I actually flew premium economy from lax, which is Los Angeles to London. And I got upgraded for free. If you want to know how, make sure that you leave a five star review, screenshot it and send it to us at Travel Squad Podcast or Travel Squad Podcast at gmail.com.
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And did you hear that though? A hack for how to get upgraded for free? It wouldn’t
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And what did they give you in premium economy? Zeno?
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Well, I had several glasses of champagne before we even took off. And I remember sending you guys pictures of that. I sent you pictures of the menu that they gave me, but then I also got an iron mask. I got toothpaste, I got slippers slippers. It was so nice. I also had the entire road to myself. Like it was not a packed flight. It was amazing. So again, we’ll tell you how to get that yourself. If you leave a five star review and send it to us at Instagram at Travel Squad Podcast, or email it to us at Travel Squad Podcast at gmail.com. Yes,
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Jen and I was going to say in premium economy, at least on British airways that you flew on. I know other airlines, they reclined further. Now. They don’t recline flat that’s business class, but they reclined further to have more comfort. Some of them have foot rests. So a lot more comfort in there and correct me if I’m wrong, you get a business class meal in premium economy. Correct.
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I don’t know if it’s the same thing that they had in business class, but I know that I wouldn’t have eaten that in economy.
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Right. And they don’t serve it to you in a foil 10. Right? It was on a real place.
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Exactly. Yeah. I felt like I was royalty. Even the guy who I, what is he called? The person who is head of the flight crew. He came and checked on me several times and at the end he even came back to make sure that I enjoyed my flight. Once we landed in London, he took such good care of me.
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Yeah. What else?
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Some things that you should bring for utility because it’s a long flight and you’re going to want to freshen up. So typically if I’m bringing my backpack on, I’ll bring a smaller little makeup Ziploc, kind of a bag to put all of this stuff in. And one thing that I always bring is chapstick because like with the water and hydration, you get really dry on a plane and I always get chapped lips and it’s awful.
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That’s a good tip.
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Well, because it’s dry air, that’s recirculated and you sit under the vent. So it’s just constant air hitting you too.
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And all you single ladies, you never know when you’re going to meet someone.
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I actually recently made a little bag and it has a whole bunch of different medications, aspirin, Pepto, ibuprofen Dramamine. It also has like a few hair ties and Bobby pins, a pack of Kleenex. It has nail Clippers. So just kind of like a all-in-one utility bag. And every time I travel, I just grabbed that one bag and it has pretty much everything I need.
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I know my musts that I include for my utility within my personal carry on, is going to be a toothbrush and toothpaste. And obviously keep in mind, the toothpaste needs to be under three ounces. So like the travel size ones, but my regular toothbrush that I take on my trip, I don’t even put it in my checked bag. That’s on my carry on my personal item to brush my teeth freshen up and always, always, I will carry a small travel size deodorant because you’re on a plane. It’s cramped. You kind of sit and tie. I mean, if you’re talking 12 to 15 hours for a flight and that’s just potentially one, not including layovers.
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I mean, sometimes we have travel times of 24 longest was 33 hours continuous like of traveling on a plane. You’re definitely going to want that and don’t pack it because I know sometimes I give myself anxiety thinking like, do I smell like I’ve been on air for a while? So I always, always want my deodorant to kind of freshen up, make me feel good.
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I also like to bring face wipes because your face gets greasy and you might’ve had makeup on when you started the flight and you want to take it off. I like to bring makeup too so that I can freshen up before we head out into the city, after we land.
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Well, speaking of face wipes and other type of wipe he might want to bring is an anti-bacterial wipe to wipe down your arm, rest your table tray and everything like that because
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I totally thought you were going to say like baby wipes to wipe your ass.
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That’s pretty important too. I guess
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That was next on my wife Because I always carry baby in my carry on backpack actually. But I was going to say for a cleanliness standpoint, at least have your tray table and arm rest like an antibacterial wipe. But yes, since Kim jumped the gun on that one, always bring baby wipes way to freshen up in the nether regions. That’s for sure.
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Yeah. Hand sanitizers another good one to bring since there are a lot of dirty surfaces in there and then, you know, perfume, lotion moisturizer, those kinds of things.
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I was going to say, definitely don’t forget. Like if you have prescriptions, don’t pack them, carry them for me. Sometimes I’ll definitely carry or these Brittany will be the one to carry it, but she’ll always have, yeah, she’ll always have the ibuprofen than a drill maybe to put you to sleep.
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Yeah. That was going to say there’s one type of pill that I always bring and it’s melatonin. And the reason I’m bring it is because it does help you sleep. It knocks you out. And the first time I ever took it, we were coming back from Thailand. And our friend that went with us was like, oh, I have this melatonin. I’m going to sleep on the plane. And I didn’t know what it was. So he gave me one and it was a dissolvable one you put on your tongue and I ate it. I don’t know how many milligrams it was and I’m eating it in the line to get on the plane. And he’s like, whoa, you’re going to take that right now. And like, well, yeah, I want to go to sleep. But I’m exhausted from this trip. And before the plane even takes off, I can not keep my eyes open. They were so heavy and I was knocked out until they started serving a meal and they couldn’t even wake up, eat the meal.
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I slept the entire flight back.
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It was pretty great.
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And it was nice. Cause it was a 2 42 situation also, but there’s four of us in the middle. So we were just like legs on each other. Cuddling moving one way. Moving the other was great
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Thailand. Yes. No.
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So wait until you’re on the airplane to take the melatonin. Yeah.
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Anything else that was utility that we should bring or that we didn’t already mention?
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One thing I always bring the deck of cards. I know it’s kind of in the next section of something to kind of do, to play a game, especially if you’re traveling with somebody or even a low in a solitaire, but before we get to that, definitely just have it on you. It’s another thing for me,
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The airport we’ve played cards, beat Brittany at speed. A few times
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We’ve gotten into Rummy as of late. This is our new card game
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Cards are so far. Yeah. So underrated.
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So we did mention that you can get a hack for how to get upgraded for free, but there’s some other things that will tell you without having to, you should give us a review anyway, actually. But no, there’s some ways that you can work with your situation and get better service on your flight. And Zina knows these really well.
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Yes. So I always like to, for the long haul flights, bring the crew a small gift or snack, it really helps just increase the good service because one, they don’t really expect anything. And I know most people don’t realize this, but flight attendants have to be there at the airport several hours before the flight, but they don’t actually get paid until the door. And they stopped getting paid the moment the door opens on an airplane. So, you know, like I’m not saying that they need to excuse if they give you shitty service, but you know, just have a little bit of empathy for them because you know, they’re working women just like all of us. And when you show up with a small gift or a snack, it really just, I can’t even tell you. I remember being in our men.
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Yes. Men, thank you. We’re
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Talking like a box of chocolate, right? Yeah. That’s like
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That. Or even like I flew back from Atlanta to San Diego and I think it was like a 10:00 PM flight. So not exactly like red eye, but it was a late night flight and I spent probably $15 at the dollar store of just $1 for the bag and then $14 filling it up with goodies. And they were so excited. The pilot gave me a thank you. No, they wrote me a thank you note. They gave me a bottle of wine. It’s amazing. Yeah. They gave the two people in my row, free alcohol. They wanted to give me free alcohol, but I’m on a sobriety this year. So I didn’t take any alcohol though. They did give me the bottle of wine and like legit. They treated me better than the people in first class because they wanted to, not because I paid money to be treated that well.
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And what’s your other trick for like connecting with a flight attendant.
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Oh, so when you get on, look at them, smile, you know, rather than just passing by them, look at them in the eyes, smile and just let them know. Oh my goodness. I think I’ve flown with you before and you gave such excellent service. Thank you so much for that. And it just makes them feel so warm and fuzzy. You know, they already feel like they’ve connected with you, even if you’ve never flown with them before, but it just gets them excited because everyone loves compliments. Everyone loves their ego being fluffed. So just, you know, make them feel good. And I promise you, they’re going to turn around and make you feel good too.
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So what do you guys do when you’re on the flight? Like when we’re actually in the air, what are your go tos
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Definitely try to sleep as much as possible makes it go by a lot faster.
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Other than my StuCo book and games that I’ve downloaded on my phone. If I have an onboard entertainment system screen behind me, I will either watch movies or find one of the TV shows on there that I’m willing to marathon. That kills a good bit of time. As a matter of fact, on this last flight back, I watched the entire final season of game of Thrones and that killed a seven, 10 hour flight.
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Where were you coming back
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From? Oh, this was our Amsterdam to Minneapolis.
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Oh my God. So Jamal and I both hadn’t watched it. So we plussed play at the same time. We were like, okay, 1, 2, 3 play. You watched it side by side, the entire final thesis.
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I didn’t want her to get ahead of me or me ahead of her because I mean, we always watched it together So loyalty. We were like, all right. And so we would match up the screens the time bars and we’re like, yes we’re
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I did that on my flight. I think coming back from Italy, we started moving at the same time.
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So speaking of sleep, Kim haven’t you fallen asleep on someone on a
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You were asleep, so maybe you don’t remember Was going to yeah, we were on our way back from Fort Lauderdale to San Diego.
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Also an exhausting trip we were coming back from.
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Yes. Yes. If you listen to the Cuba episode, you’ll know how exhausting it was because it was a fun trip. So anyways, it was a stranger in the aisle. Kim was in the middle and I was at the window and I look over and Kim is dead asleep on this woman’s shoulder. And so I was like, well, I don’t know if you know, Kim would want to be woken up, you know, like, like what do I do? So I thought, okay, well, instead of like being obvious and like waking her up and embarrassing her, I’m just going to get up to go to the bathroom. So I’ll have to wake her up when I stand up so I can get over her. And that’s what I did. And then Kim realized she was asleep on her shoulder and she was really cool about it though. Yeah.
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And nice lady. So that happens. It’s part of travel.
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It happens another thing to do to kind of kill time on a plane. And I can speak firsthand of this because on this last trip, I ran out of space on my phone. But beyond that, it’s always kind of just going through your photos and just re, cleaning out stuff that you don’t want. I know at least in particular, when Brittany and I take photos, we take five photos of us in the same spot, just to make sure you have like good photos. So it’s always good time. And believe me when you’re going back and forth, trying to compare what photos are, what it definitely kills a lot of time.
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That’s usually my last resort. When I’ve gone through the entertainment, I’ve already listened to everything on my phone, read things. I clean up the pictures on my phone. There’s a lot of crap on your phone.
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A lot of screenshots, screenshots. And it’s like, these are worthless after like the moment, right? Yeah.
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I clean up notes on my iPhone. I take a lot of notes and then I clean it up. But it’s also interesting cause it’s timestamped and I’ll see stuff from like several years ago and I’m like, whew.
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I love taking notes.
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And then, you know, there’s always the mile high club, if you’re really bored.
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And if you remember guys,
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You guys are not, did you really
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Shit? Okay. Calling us out. Well, that’s between Britney and I.
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It’s not for the podcast world.
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Between us. I
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Know bill Britney and I rose our hands.
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There’s the mile high club. There’s a little hanky panky in the aisle or in your seat
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I’m just kidding.
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Well, if you get through the online entertainment or while you’re doing the online entertainment on board onboard entertainment, you know, you can always drink alcohol
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Drink, baby. Woo.
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That’s one of the good things about international flights. I want to say 95% of airlines give free alcohol on international flights. I say 95 because I was just informed by Kim recently that she flew on Norwegian and they didn’t even provide meals or water on it. And international flight, which completely blows my mind. Not
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Not free water. Boom. Right?
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Know we’re trapped on there for 12 hours. There’s no water.
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I don’t know how that happens, but yeah, most airlines other than apparently Norwegian international flights give you free alcohol. So that’s a good way to fall asleep too. You don’t want to get up noxious, but definitely it can put you to sleep cause some whiskey to warm your belly wine, to relax the mind, whatever.
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And don’t be shy. If you want more, get up, go back to the Galloway and just ask,
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Fuck them hard.
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Must be hard.
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Speaking of snacks, my favorite snack box came from From Lima to Cusco. Oh, it was so good. The
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Whole snack box. So like an assortment of
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What is it? A meal, but just snacks, but enough Snacks to be like, wow, this is like a meal.
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I think we were, we were still talking about it three years later. I
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Don’t remember it. Okay.
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Guys though. Oh, you weren’t with us
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Laughed like 12 hours before you guys. So I can spend the day in Mexico city. Cause we flew out of Mexico city and then I got to Lima, Peru. And then I waited there for you guys. I think like eight hours. I don’t know it was,
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But you were there because the laptop was from Lima to Cusco. I
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Don’t remember the only thing I remember you were just
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Tired from eight hours
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Horne, The corn, corn nuts and that little cake. That was so good.
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And the only thing I remember about the flight was I didn’t feel like the airplane was going fast enough down the runway. So I didn’t have faith that we were going to get up into the sky. So I burst into tears, like hardcore. The guy next to me, looks like worried for me. And he says to me in Spanish it’s okay. Like it’s okay. We just have a little bit more to go. And I just looked at him and I said, no SBN. And that like, I didn’t, we need to be up there. Now. This is, this is enough. And he just looked like, really? Like who the fuck did I sit next?
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Just to give everyone a sneak peek of Zane it’s flat anxiety. She can
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Get, she was not interested.
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I know, but when we’re in the air, we’re fine. But takeoff and landing, Zena’s having like,
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I’m good on landing. It’s the takeoff.
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Anyone else feel like LATAM airlines did not go fast enough to get up in the fucking air? I
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Thought it was great. It was great.
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It did. By the way, spoiler, it was good.
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Alive. I’m here.
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I mean, I feel like recently we went on a flight with Dana and there was no turbulence at all and we leave and she goes, that was kind of a rough flight glaze, right
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From Sacramento. That
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Was a rough Flight.
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No, it was not.
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Oh my gosh.
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Another thing that we definitely like to do on our flights is get up and move. And like I said earlier about the waters and getting sodas go to the galley way and just kind of hang out. It’s a good area to stretch. If you’re traveling with people, go up there and talk,
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Especially if you’re not sitting next to your group, you can meet in the back and just hang out, have a few drinks, stretch a little bit.
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How many times on our flight to China, did we go to the galley way and kill hour each time just going up and talking. We did that twice on that 10 hour flight and that’s two hours. That’s like one fifth of the flight just killed right there. Social.
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Yeah. And there was a flight on her, I think on our way to Africa that Josh and Anna just stood behind us. We were the last seat on the plane.
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That’s what I did when we went to Mexico city. This last time I stood by you guys.
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No, not to New York
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And so we just talked to them the entire time the flight went by so fast because they were just like right behind us talking the entire time. And we hadn’t seen them in months. So it was perfect way to catch up.
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But always we go up and kind of hang in the gallery. It’s a good place to stretch. Literally actually stretched. Don’t get on the floor and do any yoga stretches. But you know, like then down kind of stretch, move your legs. It’s always good for you.
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So I like to get up, walk around, get some circulation. You know, blood clots are prone to happen when you’re sitting for a long period of time and not moving around. I actually remember when I was in nursing school, there was a guy who took a road trip and he had sat in his car for five hours. Didn’t really move a lot and was like smoking cigarettes, which is also really bad for your circulation. He got to San Diego, got out of his car, walked around for an hour and then had a pulmonary embolism due to a blood clot from that road trip. So it’s great. Like when I’m in my feet, I’m moving my feet around. Also when you’re at that higher elevation, you’re prone to swelling and cutting off circulation. Cause you’re in a dependent position, meaning that your feet are on the ground for a long period of time.
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So it’s really great to move around and get that circulation going.
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And on that note, we’re going to take a quick break to get up and walk around and then come back and record. I’m just kidding.
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This isn’t quite five hours, but actually it is time for my favorite part of the episode. We have some questions from our listeners and wanted to hit those real quick before we close it out with Flight etiquette, which is so important.
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First question we were asked is what is the longest flight you’ve been on?
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I would say it actually is only 12 hours.
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Or 14 from LA to Shanghai, yet 14 hours.
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It was Dubai to San Francisco, 16 hours,
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Jamal NEI, South Africa.
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It was from Johannesburg to Atlanta, 16 and a half hours. You’re on a flight. That’s yours
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By a half hour more,
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Your second longest flight. If you buy to San Francisco,
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There you go.
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That was a long flight, 16 and a half hours. And as a matter of fact, just a little bit of tidbit of trivia. Last time I looked that’s either the sixth or seventh longest commercial flight in the world that Johannesburg to Atlanta in terms of flight time. But that was one flight of a 33 hour travel journey that we have.
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Yeah, mine. Same 34 hours for Thailand or,
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Oh yeah. We had 33 hours was our longest travel time,
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A little bit of pain for what you get when you’re there.
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Sometimes traveling is a little bit rough, no lie, but I feel like I endured it. So my trip is my reward and I almost as sometimes grueling as it is, I look forward to it. Cause it’s almost like my Rite of passage for me to enjoy my trip. Yeah. It’s a weird little thing that I have.
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So what’s your worst flight? Three guys.
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That’s a good question.
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That’s from one of our listeners.
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Well I’m mine. It goes back a ways I was flying from St. Louis, Missouri to Sacramento. And I think I got a UTI, but I wasn’t aware of it yet. Oh my
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Yes. It wasn’t that bad yet. It just starting or whatever put up. It made me feel sick and I’d eaten a cinnamon roll from the food court in the airport right before getting on the plane. And I was like throwing up on the plane. I like almost, I feel like I had a fever. I don’t know. It was really bad. I will never been able to eat Cinnabon ever again.
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I’ve never had a bad Flight per se. I would say like anything with turbulence and anytime you take off,
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So multiple times that you think you’re going to die during turbulence
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From San Diego to new Orleans, we were like bobbing around whole crazy, like up in our seats flopping around. That was the worst turbulence I’ve ever felt.
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I remember like one flight. It was just absolutely terrifying when we were taken off. And so I kept looking Jamal and Brittany were in the back and I was kinda more in the middle and I kept turning around to look at Jamal because as long as the Jamal has like, everything’s cool face, I feel good. You know? And the lady that I was sitting next to you, she’s like, are you okay? And I was like, oh yeah, I’m just checking my brother’s face. Cause as long as his face is good. We’re good.
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I remember you looking back and giving you the thumbs up. Like everything’s fine.
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I just need a thumbs up guys. And I’m okay.
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Jamal. And don’t you have a pretty bad flight story.
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I actually have three. I imagine one of the, maybe yours, if we’re going to talk about the time that we legitimately thought we were going to fall out of the sky.
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That was my
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Only one. Okay. So I’ll let you say that one. So I have two, one of them was actually a short flight, but this is still when we lived in Northern California and me and my friends were going to six flags and Disneyland for like a little weekend getaway. And we had drove and I started to get really sick in the middle of the night. And I figured, all right, I’m going to try to troop it out at magic mountain. Cause we were doing that first before Disneyland got really sick. How to have them take me home. Like I was throwing up. Couldn’t hold it down.
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But you know, in all fairness you tripped it out in the park and just got pushed around in the wheelchair until you couldn’t handle it anymore.
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True. That’s true. But I got to the point where I needed to fly emergency home. So
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Well, I mean, it wasn’t like emergency charter. It was a Southwest, but I made them drop me off at the airport. I was like, I’m going home. I can’t handle this. So flying really, really sick. I actually got admitted to the hospital and they were going to take out my appendix because they were inflating that was causing the issue. They never ended up doing it, but that was a terrible experience. But I would beyond that, the other one was something that was out of my control. And it was as a matter of fact on that 16 and a half hour flight from Johannesburg to Atlanta, I sat next to the smelliest person. I have ever sat by on a plane, like no exaggeration. Brittany was window.
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Sure. In real life, like I don’t think you’ve smelled anyone worse than the,
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And like it was bad. So we were on the plane. It was, she was honestly no exaggeration the last and if not the last second to last person to come down the island, we’re going to have an open spot. And I was like, man, please don’t come sit by us. Please don’t come sit by us because she loves, she sat by,
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She was like in her like late twenties, early thirties. So she was young. Yes.
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She was about our age and she just, she looked grungy. She smelled like she’s been out like, and I say this because we were in Africa leaving, she looks like she was out in the African Bush doing, I don’t even know what maybe just like got done with a two day safari burnt shower, smell like, oh, it was actually pretty bad. The saving grace was that the majority of the flight, she actually had a blanket over her. So that kind of like covered everything. Yeah. She had a blanket over her and that kind of like covered the smell. But the moment she wanted to fidget with her onboard entertainment, like individual TV on the back, her armpit came out of the blanket and she, she smelled and she kept drinking milk
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Milk, like at least four times. And when she ordered something different,
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It was, it was her alcoholic drink. It was Bailey’s so still more dairy. So I would say those two are my worst flight experience. It’s
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Yeah. My worst fight experience was actually when I was with Jamal and we were both on a flight from Palauan in the Philippines back to Manila, the main land and the Capitol. And we were flying. We went in June. I would not recommend going to the Philippines in June. It’s typhoon season and
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It’s hot and
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Humid. And I came in and we flew through a typhoon and our plane hit an air pocket and dropped and we could feel it literally just the airbags come down and place.
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No, no it didn’t. It felt like a rollercoaster. It was such a drop. You felt it in your stomach. Let’s put it that.
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And so everyone on the plane gasped and was like screamed with like was afraid. And it was so bad that we knew when the flight attendants were reacting negatively to the fall as well. That
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Was like, oh my gosh,
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They weren’t expecting it.
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I knew you weren’t on that one Santa, you would have probably died of a heart attack legitimately
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That, or I would have, I like, I I’m sure I would’ve passed out.
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I’m surprised nobody mentioned the fart story as one of your worst flight stories.
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Oh, well you know what? Okay. We’re going to talk about Flight etiquette, but honestly, like it can’t even be worse because it was so fucking funny. Like it’s disgusting, but it’s so fucking funny. So let’s just go ahead and skip right to it, man. What
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About real quick, best flight experience?
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My best flight experience. It was when I was still a kid. I think I was like 16 or less and me and my brothers were flying to Alaska to visit my dad. And we got upgraded to first class. Only home. My life had been upgraded to first class. I really wish it would have happened after I was 21. I could have drank, but it was awesome. It was amazing.
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Let’s say best is I did get upgraded for free to premium economy. Like I mentioned earlier, lax to London, but not to sound corny, but I was all by myself. So it’s so amazing. But like really whenever I’m on the plane, having fun with you guys is fun time, even if you’re cramped, But it’s so true. Like, you know, like I’m in the nicest area to the, well, it wasn’t first class, but you know what I mean? Like I was in a really nice area and when you’re all by yourself, it’s nice. But at the same time you don’t have anyone to share it with.
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Yeah. Money can’t buy you companionship. That’s
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What about you guys?
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I don’t have one in particular
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Really? Of all the flights you’ve taken none stand out as being particularly great.
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No, I mean, I don’t even with us. I mean, like I have a really good time with you guys, but like even the lows, I mean, I’ve had one low and it was something out of my control, but I feel like all of my flights been pretty even like, nothing’s been really awesome. Really nothing’s been super negative. So
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I would say for me, you know, I’m kind of in the same boat as Brittany on that. Like, I can’t think of anything. That’s just really been a stand out, but I know one time when we were kids, when we were going to Lebanon, we were obviously it was a transatlantic flight, big plane and it was a 3, 4, 3 setup. And it wasn’t very full. And that’s the only time I feel like I’ve ever been on a transatlantic flight where there was enough middle seats available that we were able to just go out and actually lay on them to sleep. Now I was younger than so obviously the smaller seats weren’t that big of a deal then. But I remember that vividly that’s the only time I’ve ever really had like an open area to lay
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That was really nice. But beyond that, like best flight experience, really just any flight that gets me to a vacation. Like I said before, they feel like the flight is a Rite of passage for me, for my trip. And even though sometimes they’re grueling, it’s enjoyable just for that.
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I actually have one more. I was so hung over after Nicole’s wedding in Mexico city still drunk, probably hung over. Definitely. And got on the plane. No one was sitting next to me. I fell asleep right away, laying down across all three seats, woke up landing.
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That’s amazing. So before we close out this episode, let’s just talk about some Flight etiquette.
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So number one was shower before the flight, please
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Don’t be like that lady sitting next to Jamal.
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Also hold your flatulence,
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Hold it in people.
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We’ve got two awesome stories about this one. When we were flying from San Diego to
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This is all four of us. We were San Diego to Vegas, someone farted on the airplane and it was so bad. And this is like a late night party flight, Friday nights to
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Yeah. I’m like, oh my God. Like someone let it really,
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It smelled like it came from like the aisle right in front of us. Yeah.
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So, you know, as for, we can’t stop laughing because it’s so bad at then we’re like, I wonder if anyone thinks it’s cause we’re laughing. It wasn’t it definitely
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The second time was from San Diego to Japan and like, we didn’t hear anything, but we smelled
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The same milk lady.
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Was Africa. Okay.
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So we just kept getting like whiffs, whiffs and whips. And so we’re all looking around like,
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Brittany, if you want me to be honest,
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And sorry. I thought it could have been Brittany. And so I even looked at her to ask her, I was like, Brittany, is that you? And just like, no, it’s definitely not. And I’m like, okay.
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I’m like looking back at my mom and my niece. And I’m like, there’s something behind us. I’m like, is that you guys? And they thought my niece, she thought it was me because they kept looking at her.
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Yeah. When we finally asked her, she’s like, no, I thought it was you just cause you kept looking back. And I thought you were trying to see my reaction.
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You know, it’s like it smell. And so I’m in the same row as Jamal and Brittany, but it’s a two for two. So Jamal, Brittany, her up against the window. And then I’m at the aisle conjoined with them in that aisle. And so it’s not like it was ahead of me and behind me,
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Like all around
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I would have told you guys if it was me, but yeah. So I’m, you know, it’s tight spaces, not a lot of breathing room for the air,
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Go to the bathroom and do,
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If you got to do it, just please go up and go to the bathroom and do it. They have fans in the bathroom that suck that air out legitimately. Really? So let’s do that.
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If you think you’re going to be discreet, you’re not,
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Oh, the one that won’t make noise and ends up just killing everyone on the plane.
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And by the way, like that was the entire flight, like legit every 10, 15 minutes,
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It didn’t stop.
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So you may want to pack a nose, plug in your carry on.
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I wish they made like Poo-Pourri for farts,
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Just something up here. But
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Maybe it was like a flight attendant who just like cropped us. This article about like secrets of flight attendants. And like one of the flight attendants secrets was like, she passed his gas when she’s walking down the aisle. And it’s always fun to like look at the passengers to figure out like, oh my God,
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Trying to figure out what passengers. Well, another thing that really gets me in terms of etiquette, I cannot stand people who do not put their seat up during meal service to
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Rude, put your seat up.
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Some flight attendants will come around and tell people. But lately on flights, I haven’t been seeing them do it.
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Yeah. And if you’re too scared to do it, cause you don’t want to cause confrontation on the plane and tell the person in front of you because it’s already tight as it is when they’re leaned back and just eating, it’s really difficult. Use your attendant, call button, get the flight attendant. You don’t even need to say anything. Point to the seat. They’ll know exactly what you’re saying. And then they’ll be the ones to tell the person in front of you move your seat up.
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But I do want to encourage you to speak up. You guys, it’s not that big of a deal to just tap them on the back and say, Hey, would you mind putting your seat up while we’re eating dinner or whatever meal it is, speak up. You can do it. Yeah.
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I think this made Jamal’s flight from Johannesburg to Atlanta, even worse because not only was he sitting next to that smelly person, the person in front of us, wasn’t putting their seat up.
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Did you say something?
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You see something? Say something.
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He would’ve said something the whole time. So yeah,
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But people do put their seats back often and that’s okay. I’m perfectly fine with that. In terms of Flight etiquette. I do think it’s appropriate. But the one thing I absolutely hate is when people pull on your seat, when they stand up, it’s like, dude, use your arm. Rest, use your hands. Like use your core strength.
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And then next tip is, if you’re in the aisle or window seat, let the middle person have the armrest.
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Seriously. I always end up in the middle and I’m like, you guys give me some room, but if I’m ever on the window, I like lean on the window and move away from people. Same with the island. Like get trying to get as far away from the middle person as possible, next to me. Oh, when it’s you I’m like putting my feet up and weighing on you. Like it’s okay to sleep on you.
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Good. This is when you’re with strangers.
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Yeah. With strangers. I’m like get out of my bubble.
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Also when you take off your shoes, which is okay. Like, I like to take my shoes off during flight, but if you get up and walk around, put them back on.
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I’ve definitely gone to the bathroom without shoes on.
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You know what that reminds me of Kim. That reminds me of Brittany. Here’s walking into the public restroom without
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Yeah. That’s disgusting. That’s
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What is, I mean
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That’s, I mean
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These slippers and economy,
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I’m going to reserve judgment on you because you may have just been tired. But that’s what
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Did. I did.
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Okay. But still that’s one of my things, like I take my shoes off fine, but like, I don’t like when people run the plane with their shoes off.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s pretty gross. I definitely judge people when they do it too.
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And speaking of shoes off, don’t put your feet through the seats to other people’s seats. It happens more often than you think. And I don’t understand how people think that that’s appropriate or okay.
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Oh, you know what? And that just makes me think that if you have long hair, don’t throw your hair over the seat. So it’s
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Like walking the screen or somebody else’s seat. Yeah. I’ve seen that once. Yeah. It’s ridiculous.
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This meme on like Facebook, somebody drying their underwear in the air.
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That’s a new one. That’s a good one. It just came out. Didn’t I saw it like a couple of days ago. Oh wow. That’s
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It’s funny that you say that. Cause I just
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Someone had their underwear off and was blow-drying it with the air vents. That was
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An airplane. Yeah.
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I didn’t see this. I saw this online or somebody doing something. I don’t know if it was recorded. Like as a joke. If someone was looking at me doing that,
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That’s why you bring a second pair of underwear Back to the tip section.
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Panty liner. She should have been wearing one.
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Yeah. So let’s see. Next one is, if you are the lucky beneficiary of an aisle seat, allow the passengers in the middle and the window seat to get up when needed. And don’t be a douchebag about it. You chose that seat, you know, what’s going to happen. And if they have to get up, just be nice. Yeah.
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And if you are sitting in the middle or the window, if the aisle person gets up, that’s always, when I get up to go to the bathroom to me to take advantage of the opportunity,
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Very good tip right there. It came. If somebody is doing it and you don’t really have to go, but probably could take that opportunity so they don’t have to get up again.
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And it’s a good place to stand up and move around.
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Yeah. Next one. Control your offspring.
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We’re not moms shaming. Anyone. We are not. Or
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Dad shaming. But like I said, my aunt and uncle just went on this flight and the kid was kicking their seat and screaming the entire time I get it. If they’re screaming, sometimes you can’t control them. But the kicking, I can’t control that. I look back sometimes and I’m like, should I yell at this kid right now? Or should I continue with
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The kicking, the throwing or even running up and down the aisles? Like if they’re crying, like legitimately, I understand that you can’t stop that, but you can control their other behaviors, you know? And I’ve seen kids run up and down the aisle. I think a lot of people think that this is okay.
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Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t have kids. Maybe you’re just at that point. You’re like, I don’t care what you do get away from me,
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And our last one is when the plane lands do not get up and rush the front, please have some etiquette, let people in front of you get off in an orderly fashion. Don’t try to bum rush everyone. Get on the plane.
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China was really bad at this Mexican kind of
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Bad too. Yeah.
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It’s like, Ugh. The worst. You know, when the people right in the aisle behind you, like bum rush past you. I remember like
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I want to get off
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Too. There was one flight. I think it was like a national flight or a domestic flight and maybe it was Denver or something. And they kept trying to like push past me. And so I kept being just as aggressive and getting out there to not let them, but it’s so rude, dude. It’s just so rude.
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Yeah. I agree.
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So fucking rude. I’m so passionate about rooted in,
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Let people in front go first. Absolutely
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Disembark in an orderly fashion.
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Any other final thoughts on long haul air travel or just air travel in general ladies?
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I just want to say that even though a flight can be very long and you can’t make time go faster, there are tons of things that you can do to entertain yourself and make it less painful. And then what’s waiting for you on the other side of that flight is always going to be worth it.
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And if you guys have some good tips that we didn’t share, please let us know. Oh yeah. I’d love to hear them. All right.
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Okay guys. Well, thank you so much for listening. Hope you learned some valuable tips that you can take for yourself on your next long haul flight.
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